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this is somewhere in the sky

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- Brian spice stars at night are big and

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bright deep in the heart of Texas the

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Prairie sky is wide and high deep in the

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heart of Texas

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say the song says it all doesn't it we

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are going to be talking about UFOs over

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the great state of Texas today with UFO

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researcher Jane Kyle

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Jane has amassed a wealth of not only

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historical cases out of Texas but some

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that she has personally researched up

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until today this can all be found on her

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website

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Texas UFOs calm today we talk about how

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Jane got involved in UFOs some of her

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favorite cases and just exactly what is

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going on over the skies of Texas and

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beyond but before we get to this week's

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interview I want to talk about the

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recent claims made by a millionaire on

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national television Robert Bigelow was

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interviewed on 60 minutes recently and

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while the interview was focused around

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his aerospace work some of the most

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intriguing things he talked about came

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up when the interviewer Laura Logan

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asked Bigelow not only if he believed in

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alien life but if he believes it's

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already here on earth do you believe in

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alien I am absolutely convinced as

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Holder is to it do you also believe that

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UFOs have come to earth there has been

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and is an existing presence of a mutant

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presence and I spent millions and

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millions I probably spent more as an

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individual than anybody else United

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States has ever spent on this subject is

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it risky for you to say you know in

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public that you believe I'll give you a

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nose an alien I don't cure you don't

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worry that some people will say that you

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hear that guy sounds like crazy I don't

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care

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why not it's not going to make a

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difference it's not going to change

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reality of what I know do you imagine

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that in our space travels we will

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encounter other forms of intelligent

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life you don't have to go anywhere you

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can find it here

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yeah so yeah Robert Bigelow doesn't give

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interviews that often and in the past

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when he has it's rather brief and

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tight-lipped that's why this particular

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interview came as a surprise to many but

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for those within the UFO community it's

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no real surprise above Bigelow's

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feelings on UFOs and aliens he was

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closely tied to MUFON for a period of

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time in which he pumped a ton of money

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into creating rapid response teams to go

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out and invest

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controversially all the reports were

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then turned over exclusively to Bigelow

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when that partnership ended Bigelow then

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bought up the skinwalker ranch in Utah

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where a plethora of weird [\h__\h]

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including UFO sightings have been

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reported so what's clear this guy has a

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keen interest in the unknown I mean

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he'll his aerospace company even Dawn's

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damn building but when someone with his

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resources and quirky yet pretty grounded

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reputation as an entrepreneur is saying

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that aliens have visited us and are

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right under our noses you have to wonder

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if there's any credence to his claims

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I'm sure if this isn't the last time

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we're going to hear about Bigelow and as

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many contributions to private space

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exploration but when we get any more

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talk of alien visitation and if so any

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evidence or proof just like Bigelow's

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hopes to build hotels in space only time

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No without further ado here's our

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interview with Jane Kyle thank you for

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joining us today Jane thank you it is so

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awesome to be on your show and I really

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appreciate you having me on our pleasure

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for sure so everyone is always you know

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curious how someone how someone gets

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involved with these topics especially

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you follow jeans the first question I'm

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always asked when I'm on shows so can

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you tell us a little bit about how did

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you get involved with the field of UFO

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studies how does this happen

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yes it's always a good question in this

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world I think I mean to certain I think

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I just grew up very open to everything I

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had a very active imagination I just

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followed my imagination wherever it left

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me but really UFOs and aliens have sort

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of remained in the fiction books and

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movies and I hadn't really thought to

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look into it too much but then I met my

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husband well then you know boyfriend at

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the time in 2007 and he had grown up

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researching this sort of finding himself

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attracted to those books that nobody

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else was reading you know at the

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bookstore in the library and so he

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pretty much an expert on all of this but

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he's not the type to go and talk about

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it a little thought or write about it I

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actually had a journalism degree from UT

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Austin and put the copywriter at the

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time and so I was once I started

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researching it it just you know ended up

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online just seemed natural so I ended up

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you know putting out online what I was

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you know finding an you know out locally

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usually you know someone has a sighting

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or they're personally interested from

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the star but that's pretty cool that you

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are kind of like brought introduced into

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the world by somebody you don't hear

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that often yeah yes I definitely feel

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like just me now there were sightings so

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it was definitely my husband and that

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investigation really online I mean the

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and and has been for a while but I don't

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know if you remember 2011 was kind of a

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crazy year for UFO sightings there was

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the Jerusalem yobbo which you know many

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people some people mean it was almost a

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household name at the time some people

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might be familiar with that UFO that

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appeared over the Temple in Jerusalem it

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was largely debunked a bunch of videos

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same thing but we're clearly fake sort

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of competing with the original footage

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which was harder to debunk it was just

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one strangest event

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strangest series of reports I ever saw

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and it just I still to this day

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don't know what that UFO was real but it

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just it intrigued me how much it seemed

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to be covered up and how important story

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seemed to be to people similarly it was

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was it 2011 March the Japan earthquake

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and disaster yes pretty much there were

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a number of UFO or that were captured by

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local news cameras you know before

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during and after that you know horrific

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natural disaster you know or if they

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mean to dance or even seem to survey

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the [\h__\h] flooding and all that and I saw

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a lot of that footage and similarly had

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also watched relate to that live earth

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clamp that earthquake can and I think to

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this day if you're lucky on a good day

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you'll see these lights glowing over

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you can't explain them and I saw that

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with my own two eyes so between this

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sort of strange phenomena where we see

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affected me quite deeply in 2012 was

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actually when I officially started

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Texas UFOs calm you know documenting

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local sightings and national sightings

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so there were definitely events you know

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once I was aware that this was happening

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and following things you know there were

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definitely sightings that just totally

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won me over for sure awesome okay so you

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you have seen them with your your own

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two eyes I like hearing that for sure

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I don't know if it can you know on on

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this screen the closest as I've got what

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that same vein train is there one case

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I won't register it now I don't want it

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to influence your decision but is there

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one case that always intrigued you or

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drove you to become a UFO researcher

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officially in 2012 yeah so I think yes I

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mean the Jerusalem UFO the Japan UFOs

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during the earthquake disaster which in

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in the 2011 the more recent ones but I

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think even going back to the more

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well-documented cases the Phoenix light

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for sure and I think a lot of people

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probably feel that way it's even what a

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case that's more known in the mainstream

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just such a well documented case it

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ended up being under bumped at the time

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you know local officials were saying

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don't even remember what the explanation

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was maybe a military craft with flares

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or something you know we would hear that

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a lot but then later you know that was

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retracted so that that case for sure

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definitely caught my eye and made me

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think differently about this whole

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subject oh yeah just a fascinating case

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you know I've met so many of the actual

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witnesses to that event one of my

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co-hosts included on another podcast I

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do saw the Phoenix lights so right there

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like we have first-hand testimony for

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this pass which i think is essential you

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know I'm sure you've spoken to many

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individuals who have seen things and

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that's very important that we have

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living and breathing witnesses so many

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of these cases like Roswell everyone

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that originally was involved is gone now

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so that just that already and it taints

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the case and it's just a race with the

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Undertaker at that point though it's

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exciting to know that 1997 isn't too far

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off we're right right is one of the more

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recent amazing cases where we can

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actually talk to living witness because

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ya know in terms of those researching

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that and interviewing witnesses are

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there any researchers or individuals

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that have really sort of fueled your

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work and if so what about them or their

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approach do you find most I guess

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interesting or inspiring right so I mean

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it's really hard for me not to say Linda

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Moulton Howe yes right yeah off the top

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of my head I've always left her delivery

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and her dedication to her sources and as

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fantastical some of the things you know

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conclusion she's come to over the years

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she always is so good at coming at it

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from really a scientific objective

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perspective and I think she just gives

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witnesses the forum that they deserve

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and so I've always really admired her

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that's definitely part of it but what

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great as I got to see her at I got to

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see her speak at a lien con mmm okay

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yeah which is really it also basically

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put on the cosmic on helped to put it on

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but as you know the ancient aliens oh so

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it was a great event and she spoke there

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and she signed a million and a half

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autograph I'm sitting there was her

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trying to get her from event event and

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she would just linger and to try to sign

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as many more autographs as she could and

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she was just she was one of the most

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prominent people at that event you know

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just speaking constantly so she just has

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so much energy and passion to this day

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to have so much passion still yeah after

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all these years for this subject matter

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I think is super admirable there's a lot

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of great voices out there but she

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definitely stands out that's awesome

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yeah she she really is just such a ball

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of energy and I think that's very

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important when it comes to a being a

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journalist in this topic and B being a

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UFO researcher like you said these these

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older researchers they're so burned out

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I've had so many of them come up to me

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and say like I'm I'm done dude like I'm

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exhausted I I don't feel like I've

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gotten to where I want to I haven't

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found any answers but they're excited to

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see younger people involved because

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that's almost like them passing the

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torch and be like okay now you try to

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unravel this you know thousand year old

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mystery if we take a generic

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incineration right exactly

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Jade I want to move to your neck of the

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woods actually right now being that you

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are based out of Texas I want to cover a

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couple of the famous incidents in your

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area and you have a lot which is really

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cool

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one of the most credible modern UFO

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cases was the Stevensville lights

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someone asked me recently like what is

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the one case that you can point people

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to that's happened in the last like ten

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years so could you tell us a little bit

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about the Stevensville lights and where

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you think it stands today is a UFO case

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yes absolutely so yeah that is

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definitely that's right up there with

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the Phoenix like lights as far as you

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know is a similar type of sighting a

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large

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crafts we can presume with you know

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bright lights seen by the masses and

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Stephenville Texas in 2008 it was also

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similarly debunked way as a craft with

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flares yes um you know like the Phoenix

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like you can find a trail of those

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articles but then in more recent years

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you know witnesses keep coming forward

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this is a more recent sighting again you

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know unlike Roswell where we have plenty

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of living witnesses and there was even

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ray our evidence I believe that confirms

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the craft and even suggested that it was

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heading toward I think then President

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George Bush's ranch and prospectus oh I

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didn't know that yeah I remember that

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actually being widely circulated at the

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time but what it's kind of spooky is I

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was looking into this again recently

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because I do still get we still get

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sightings out of Stephenville you know

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of bright strange lights and things but

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it's actually really it's increasingly

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hard to find the Stephenville light

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story online and I would guess that all

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your listeners go out and try because I

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was I can't there used to be a site

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dedicated to the phenomenon and it

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appears it's not around anymore it's

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hard to find and some of these stories

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and it's really easy to find some of the

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older articles that debunked it I

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thought that was a little spooky yeah so

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hopefully that's just a little blip but

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so I was you know I don't really know

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what's currently going on with it right

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now or where everything stands right now

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it doesn't appear to be clear right well

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that's I mean that's a good point too a

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lot of the a lot of UFO cases there's no

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follow up you know even if the

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mainstream media covers an event there's

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their five-minute you know segment fluff

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piece as it were and then we never hear

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about it again and you got a wonder is

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this is this on purpose or are they just

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not you know responsible journalists and

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broadcasters ourselves you are eating a

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very persistent pattern and the more

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compares more compelling cases the more

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witnesses the more documentation the

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less you end up hearing about it over

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time

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heresy maybe oh yeah I just have to make

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up our minds

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exactly well another famous case is cash

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Landrum this is one of the few UFO cases

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that actually involved physical ailments

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possibly due to the aftermath of a case

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and the US government was involved too

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from what I remember um do you do you

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have any knowledge about this case yeah

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what can you tell us so yeah I know I

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have not you know spoken to you know

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anybody directly involved you know just

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really as a researcher you know living

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in Texas especially curious right this

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is this case happened in 1980 out near

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Houston and the Pineywoods so you know

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just imagine a trait you know winding

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road through Susie woods and Betty cash

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and Vickie Landrum were in the car and

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then I think it was Vicki ER but I don't

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recall one of the woman's son younger

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sons was also in the car with them and

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they're driving along and they see a

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strange glowing light in the sky they

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get out to check it out it gets closer

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and it appears now as a diamond with the

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top cutter off so I don't know how you

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know upside-down pyramid or triangle and

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they then sort of feel heat from the

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craft they of course you know get back

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into the vehicle and as time passes it

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turns out that they ended up getting

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diagnosed by at least one doctor with

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radiation sickness so all the symptoms

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you know hair loss I'm trying to think

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you know other I guess classic radiation

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sickness symptoms and so these ladies

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actually ended up suing the US

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government I guess proposing it was

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their craft

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for these these physical ailments now

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one party to leave out about their

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sighting is the craft before they got in

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the car the craft took off and was then

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joined by a bunch of helicopters

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yeah yes so this is again there's photos

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it's well documented there's even been

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series more recently that this was a

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government craft and that indeed you

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know they

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should pay out to the victims that yeah

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that's a truly fascinating case and

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there are other cases where people

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report heat and illness you know after

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sighting even the well sci-fi film Close

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Encounters of the Third Kind is be

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eerily similar to this 1980 incident you

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know that happened you know more than a

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decade after or about a decade after

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that movie came out yeah and like you

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mentioned trace evidence is very

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important when it comes to a proper UFO

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investigation it sometimes it's that

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that's almost our smoking gun like hey

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look at Jael and hynek's like Close

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Encounters spectrum from like lights in

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the sky up to like abduction or whatever

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this is like teetering towards the other

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side I mean we actually have someone

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being affected physically by an event I

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think this this will always remain one

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of the most important cases seventh out

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of Texas in my opinion oh yes I have an

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article somewhere on this site about

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eating of the top sightings in Texas and

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this was the very first one that came to

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mind and I know the young boy is still

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speaking about the event I didn't know I

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would love to hear what he said about it

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yeah I he may still be in your in your

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neck of the woods I'm not sure but up

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yeah he's recently come forward to talk

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about it pretty tight-lipped but he is

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really descent command of it yeah yeah

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you got a wonder maybe he was the one to

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finally get paid off by the government

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who knows I mean I think after a certain

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amount of time passes you know the truth

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it's like you have this limited window

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to really investigate and then you know

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who knows how the story gets spun or

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what people convince themselves you know

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over time so exactly Ricky well moving

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away from the famous cases I want to

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talk about some of these really cool

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cases that you've personally research

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one of those was in 2014 in Houston

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could you tell us a little bit about the

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ring of light and what what this is this

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is pretty interesting yeah this is the

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weirdest thing in August 2014 and I

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think there were reports sort of going

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into the fall maybe as late as November

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but really just that time period and in

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Houston Texas there was a series of

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sightings of this ring of light just

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sitting up there and hovering in the

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night sky was just witnessed report

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after witness report photos videos it

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was the strangest thing and there were

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no doubt some photos of street lamps

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that did get into the mix I mean it was

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such a mass sighting it was getting so

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much attention even local even in the

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local news outlets not just in UFO sites

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like mine I mean I'm glad to break

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stories like this you know for sure but

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this you know made it to the the local

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news as well so you know some people did

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I think you know see a street lamp and

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you know excited as we do happen right

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right right it's just just natural but

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it definitely occurred and like we were

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just talking about that started you know

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the reports came in it was never really

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debunked and then just nothing just no

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follow-up nothing so to this day I don't

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know what was going on in Houston at the

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time but it definitely happened yeah I

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have no doubt um well another

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interesting phenomena happening in Texas

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and a few other places I've been hearing

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about this a lot lately this is like

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kind of a new millennial phenomena that

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seems to be happening this is the

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humming noise and this terrifies me

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first of all there's like these biblical

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images that come into my mind of like

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the end of times when I hear about this

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could you describe this phenomenon to us

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Jane the humming noise and what some of

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these reports consisted of out of Texas

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yes the sounds is the apocalypse

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Olympics oh yeah so there was definitely

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a worldwide phenomenon I don't even know

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exactly the year be interesting if it

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was 2011 I want to say it kind of was

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2011 2012 said this worldwide phenomenon

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really started happening where people

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you're in he's almost like howling

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noises or rumbling sound or yes very

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much in almost trumpeting but the more

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the more well documented on

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phenomenons a little bit less dramatic

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like that but no less mysterious really

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and we we've heard about it and tell

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some places like that but it also

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appears to be happening in Texas and

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I'll just get waves just certain times a

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year just these waves of reports of

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people hearing this humming noise

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sometimes it's described as like this

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low rumbling and just like never stopped

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though and only certain not everybody

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00:23:33,820 --> 00:23:30,920
hears it for in some cases it's driving

546
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:33,830
them crazy and they tried to diagnosis

547
00:23:39,130 --> 00:23:36,890
as tinnitus which is you know the

548
00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:39,140
ringing or the hump you know humming in

549
00:23:44,289 --> 00:23:42,110
your ear but have you no figured out you

550
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:44,299
know right with other people hearing it

551
00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:45,770
as well that it really is you know

552
00:23:50,919 --> 00:23:47,809
occurring there's been people have

553
00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:50,929
uploaded videos of this sound again it's

554
00:23:55,090 --> 00:23:52,910
definitely a real phenomenon it's hard

555
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:55,100
to say if it's connected to the

556
00:23:59,799 --> 00:23:57,919
worldwide event you know sounds that

557
00:24:04,450 --> 00:23:59,809
we're here I was doing some research

558
00:24:06,730 --> 00:24:04,460
into this recently and a lot of people

559
00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:06,740
have suggested all kinds of theories it

560
00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:09,260
could be related to sink holder

561
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:12,169
earthquake right right something natural

562
00:24:17,950 --> 00:24:15,200
right yeah or even I've heard the theory

563
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:17,960
of fish say a certain species of fish

564
00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:22,370
that emits this this noise okay yeah and

565
00:24:28,330 --> 00:24:25,240
then of course you know large spaceship

566
00:24:31,390 --> 00:24:28,340
very well could be I'm gonna go with the

567
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:31,400
fish me sounds yes I was much prefer it

568
00:24:36,970 --> 00:24:33,730
to be fish that's a little less scary

569
00:24:39,850 --> 00:24:36,980
well this brings up an interesting point

570
00:24:41,470 --> 00:24:39,860
Ujjain like this idea of like one person

571
00:24:43,810 --> 00:24:41,480
hearing something and then everyone

572
00:24:46,930 --> 00:24:43,820
hearing it we hear this a lot in the UFO

573
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:46,940
field of what a recent author I've been

574
00:24:52,270 --> 00:24:49,130
reading this David Clarke is his name

575
00:24:54,850 --> 00:24:52,280
here he quoted he quoted this term the

576
00:24:56,980 --> 00:24:54,860
UFO syndrome where like one person sees

577
00:24:58,930 --> 00:24:56,990
something and then everyone's influenced

578
00:25:01,750 --> 00:24:58,940
thereafter you know we look at like the

579
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:01,760
Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting where he did

580
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:04,130
not see flying saucers he was misquoted

581
00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:06,770
in a paper as seeing saucers and then

582
00:25:11,860 --> 00:25:09,350
that's when everyone saw after that yeah

583
00:25:14,220 --> 00:25:11,870
you have to wonder is this just some

584
00:25:16,020 --> 00:25:14,230
sort of hysteria like one person

585
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:16,030
would tinnitus heard this and that

586
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:17,410
everyone claimed to have heard it but

587
00:25:21,660 --> 00:25:19,090
you also mentioned there's like there's

588
00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:21,670
documented video and audio of this but

589
00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:23,110
you do have to wonder like how much

590
00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:25,630
influence witnesses have on one another

591
00:25:31,260 --> 00:25:28,270
in terms of something like this and and

592
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,270
it's connection to UFOs the humming

593
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:33,520
noise is it's very intriguing and we

594
00:25:37,650 --> 00:25:35,290
have these mystery booms happening

595
00:25:40,020 --> 00:25:37,660
around the world so yeah have you come

596
00:25:40,770 --> 00:25:40,030
across any of those cases at all UFO or

597
00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:40,780
excuse me

598
00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:42,700
mystery booms what's up what an answer

599
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:45,550
do it gonna start a whole new I know

600
00:25:52,620 --> 00:25:49,840
saying they're hearing us also not as

601
00:25:54,810 --> 00:25:52,630
much and I'm sure I feel like I have

602
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:54,820
actually seen maybe some reports like

603
00:25:59,700 --> 00:25:57,490
that in Texas more so in other parts of

604
00:26:02,130 --> 00:25:59,710
the world and I can't think of specific

605
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:02,140
dates or cities right now but yeah that

606
00:26:07,230 --> 00:26:05,170
has definitely been ongoing yeah maybe

607
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:07,240
their propulsion just isn't working

608
00:26:12,510 --> 00:26:10,720
correctly yes right we really just keep

609
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:12,520
trying they're trying to escape and they

610
00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:15,010
can't okay can't escape our planet

611
00:26:19,860 --> 00:26:17,740
there's ships aren't working yeah it's

612
00:26:23,370 --> 00:26:19,870
super fascinating and it's kind of funny

613
00:26:25,380 --> 00:26:23,380
how I end up with all of these I let you

614
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:25,390
know I fascinated with theory about

615
00:26:29,730 --> 00:26:27,730
aliens and I really tend to believe that

616
00:26:31,380 --> 00:26:29,740
they exist and sorry not to believe that

617
00:26:34,290 --> 00:26:31,390
they visit but for the most part

618
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:34,300
studying UFOs you end up really you end

619
00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:36,730
up finding a lot about meteors just

620
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:38,470
different sky phenomenon because the

621
00:26:42,420 --> 00:26:40,330
reason that this ends up on my plate is

622
00:26:44,010 --> 00:26:42,430
because it's associated these sounds

623
00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:44,020
seem like they're coming from the sky

624
00:26:49,740 --> 00:26:47,470
you know in the sky is huge so so much

625
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:49,750
you know ends up on my plate that I get

626
00:26:52,860 --> 00:26:52,450
to investigate and I totally agree with

627
00:26:55,170 --> 00:26:52,870
that

628
00:26:57,780 --> 00:26:55,180
you know hysteria I think it's just

629
00:27:00,210 --> 00:26:57,790
human nature and evitable but one

630
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:00,220
advantage boy I have it I get raw

631
00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:03,370
reports from people as they're happening

632
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:06,460
and for the most part when people are

633
00:27:08,790 --> 00:27:07,930
reporting some things they're

634
00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:08,800
embarrassed

635
00:27:13,410 --> 00:27:11,260
they don't nobody else is experiencing

636
00:27:16,410 --> 00:27:13,420
it and they want to be kept anonymous

637
00:27:18,510 --> 00:27:16,420
they feel that they're alone even as I'm

638
00:27:20,370 --> 00:27:18,520
sometimes with this humming so that's

639
00:27:23,820 --> 00:27:20,380
not always it's not always the case but

640
00:27:26,010 --> 00:27:23,830
for the most part people don't feel like

641
00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:26,020
they're they feel like it's pretty

642
00:27:30,350 --> 00:27:27,929
unique to them oh yeah

643
00:27:33,379 --> 00:27:30,360
and so it's hard you have to very lend

644
00:27:35,389 --> 00:27:33,389
some authenticity to their experiences I

645
00:27:37,399 --> 00:27:35,399
think that's a wonderful point that raw

646
00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:37,409
data and the fact that people like come

647
00:27:40,509 --> 00:27:38,220
straight to you

648
00:27:42,859 --> 00:27:40,519
that's very integral to being a

649
00:27:46,669 --> 00:27:42,869
researcher you know I've dealt with that

650
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:46,679
on many occasions where they don't want

651
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:48,330
to talk about it people don't understand

652
00:27:53,509 --> 00:27:50,580
that be more like clamoring to come to

653
00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:53,519
UFO researchers know we're usually the

654
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:56,159
ones you know trying to pull it out of

655
00:28:00,980 --> 00:27:58,799
them and you look at someone like

656
00:28:03,529 --> 00:28:00,990
stenting Friedman who gets on stage and

657
00:28:06,529 --> 00:28:03,539
asks crowd of like a thousand people you

658
00:28:07,879 --> 00:28:06,539
know who's seen a UFO and 90% of the

659
00:28:10,970 --> 00:28:07,889
people raise their hand how many people

660
00:28:13,070 --> 00:28:10,980
reported it like maybe 20 percent raise

661
00:28:15,169 --> 00:28:13,080
their hand so right there there's like

662
00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:15,179
80% of the people who've seen something

663
00:28:18,590 --> 00:28:17,580
but don't report it why why do you think

664
00:28:20,779 --> 00:28:18,600
that is you mentioned they're

665
00:28:22,430 --> 00:28:20,789
embarrassed but is there more to it than

666
00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:22,440
that do you think I think there's an

667
00:28:28,489 --> 00:28:25,769
embarrassment there's a fear and there's

668
00:28:30,590 --> 00:28:28,499
just there's not this there's no public

669
00:28:32,830 --> 00:28:30,600
come really mainstream public

670
00:28:35,419 --> 00:28:32,840
conversation about that nobody feels

671
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:35,429
encouraged by anywhere to go report

672
00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:37,769
these things you know so it's just

673
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:40,980
there's it's how do you even do it I

674
00:28:45,169 --> 00:28:43,049
mean there's not even a good you know

675
00:28:46,340 --> 00:28:45,179
you can obviously you know if you see

676
00:28:48,499 --> 00:28:46,350
something in Texas anywhere you can go

677
00:28:50,419 --> 00:28:48,509
to my site report it to me and I'm going

678
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:50,429
to look at it you know MUFON the place

679
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:52,080
people can report it to but you're not

680
00:28:54,830 --> 00:28:53,490
going to know of any of these places off

681
00:28:56,239 --> 00:28:54,840
the top of your head if you're just

682
00:28:58,669 --> 00:28:56,249
going along your way and see something

683
00:28:59,960 --> 00:28:58,679
like this I think people do talk about

684
00:29:02,389 --> 00:28:59,970
it with their friends and family and

685
00:29:05,899 --> 00:29:02,399
maybe they get kind of shut down or

686
00:29:08,210 --> 00:29:05,909
laughed at and just leave it at that

687
00:29:11,509 --> 00:29:08,220
yeah it's but people do report

688
00:29:13,369 --> 00:29:11,519
anonymously there are oh my gosh so

689
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:13,379
there's constant reports going into that

690
00:29:18,889 --> 00:29:16,080
are flooded into the MUFON database most

691
00:29:20,869 --> 00:29:18,899
of them really don't get seen you know

692
00:29:22,940 --> 00:29:20,879
the light of day they might show up on a

693
00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:22,950
site that sort of feeding reports but

694
00:29:27,619 --> 00:29:24,990
that's pretty much you know all the

695
00:29:29,899 --> 00:29:27,629
action will get like you know how do I

696
00:29:32,509 --> 00:29:29,909
get reports constantly so as we were

697
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:32,519
saying like how to know objectively well

698
00:29:36,889 --> 00:29:34,799
if I get five reports in a month I'm

699
00:29:39,379 --> 00:29:36,899
probably I might be exaggerating about a

700
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:39,389
home from five different people you know

701
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,770
days this month yes

702
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:42,480
I can probably gather that there's

703
00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:44,310
something to that versus you know one

704
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:46,230
random one although there is a huge

705
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:49,440
stigma it is it is out there it's almost

706
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:52,650
so numerous but it makes it difficult

707
00:29:58,190 --> 00:29:55,530
actually define you know the better

708
00:30:01,580 --> 00:29:58,200
cases I would say that's it's a problem

709
00:30:04,430 --> 00:30:01,590
actually yeah I imagine it's like a

710
00:30:06,740 --> 00:30:04,440
needle in a haystack trying to find

711
00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:06,750
something worth investigating usually

712
00:30:12,050 --> 00:30:08,670
well another one you investigated was

713
00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:12,060
this was in Georgetown Texas and this

714
00:30:17,810 --> 00:30:15,240
was of a let me get this straight it was

715
00:30:19,670 --> 00:30:17,820
a Pentagon shaped craft no this is this

716
00:30:22,130 --> 00:30:19,680
is a shape I've never heard of in terms

717
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:22,140
of UFO reports we've got diamonds

718
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:25,650
triangles saucers cigars but a pentagon

719
00:30:29,930 --> 00:30:28,530
that seems so specific can you tell us a

720
00:30:32,390 --> 00:30:29,940
bit about this case and what you

721
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:32,400
personally feel it could be so I wish

722
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:33,810
that the witness is taking a picture of

723
00:30:38,810 --> 00:30:36,510
this unfortunately one your honestly for

724
00:30:40,570 --> 00:30:38,820
the most part I try to feature only

725
00:30:43,370 --> 00:30:40,580
feature sightings of photos or videos

726
00:30:45,170 --> 00:30:43,380
because you know it's just as amazing as

727
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:45,180
you know witness testimony is if you

728
00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:48,000
don't have any other documentation it's

729
00:30:52,810 --> 00:30:50,760
just hard to prove that case but this

730
00:30:56,150 --> 00:30:52,820
witness just get it was too long

731
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:56,160
detailed testimony about what they saw

732
00:31:00,290 --> 00:30:58,320
and just seemed to affect them so

733
00:31:04,940 --> 00:31:00,300
greatly and what they described was a

734
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:04,950
massive dark chalky craft great chart

735
00:31:10,490 --> 00:31:08,310
chalky gray craft that was so large that

736
00:31:11,930 --> 00:31:10,500
it all seems like they could touch but

737
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:11,940
they knew it was up high and this guy

738
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:14,130
was just that massive there were fighter

739
00:31:20,570 --> 00:31:17,760
jets nearby his or her dogs were barking

740
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:20,580
like crazy about it I didn't believe it

741
00:31:26,810 --> 00:31:23,730
it is a him not misreport at the time a

742
00:31:29,540 --> 00:31:26,820
dogs were barking like crazy even an owl

743
00:31:36,410 --> 00:31:29,550
flew in front of him at the time just to

744
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:36,420
make things you know weird creepy yeah

745
00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:40,050
they called 9-1-1 afterward tried to get

746
00:31:43,340 --> 00:31:41,640
to the bottom of it and report it you

747
00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:43,350
know we're obviously turned up empty

748
00:31:48,290 --> 00:31:45,270
with them so it's just this really

749
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:48,300
compelling testimony and then you know i

750
00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:49,770
put it out there on the site because it

751
00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:52,380
just struck me as sincere and it just a

752
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:54,390
lot of people were skeptic

753
00:31:59,480 --> 00:31:57,360
how could something so massive be there

754
00:32:01,700 --> 00:31:59,490
in you know Georgetown Texas and we're

755
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:01,710
not seeing any other reports and I eNOS

756
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:04,530
Emily felt the same way so if this crap

757
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:07,200
is so large we should be seeing lots of

758
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:07,890
sightings

759
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:10,410
however I've got to say like we were

760
00:32:14,210 --> 00:32:11,910
talking about earlier the more

761
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:14,220
compelling amazing sightings but you

762
00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:16,530
expect lots of witnesses tend to be the

763
00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:19,260
ones that get you don't - hunter reports

764
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:21,720
on it's pretty amazing but it does

765
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:24,960
happen so I try to remain open and so

766
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:27,360
this case is still open to me because

767
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:29,730
there the witness has come forward since

768
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:33,120
to defend his sighting and elaborate and

769
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:35,910
draw a photo of it and so I may be

770
00:32:40,910 --> 00:32:38,610
sharing that soon and apparently another

771
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:40,920
person has reached out to let me know

772
00:32:45,770 --> 00:32:43,290
that there's might be another a video

773
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:45,780
out there of a craft like this in

774
00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:48,810
Georgetown in March oh wow I will be

775
00:32:54,260 --> 00:32:51,630
following up to see if there's some you

776
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:54,270
know more witness testimony or video

777
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:56,130
about this case because I'm pretty

778
00:33:01,580 --> 00:32:58,650
intrigued it's definitely still open so

779
00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:01,590
so far possible I hope yeah I hope you

780
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:04,470
get that i we will definitely be waiting

781
00:33:07,460 --> 00:33:06,720
to see that on your site um Wow

782
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,470
pentagons

783
00:33:12,530 --> 00:33:09,840
so think I never thought I'd hear Eisley

784
00:33:14,930 --> 00:33:12,540
the disc or the triangle or you know

785
00:33:17,030 --> 00:33:14,940
something like that Pentagon is unusual

786
00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:17,040
yes very geometric there's got to be

787
00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:19,470
something there yeah well I want to kind

788
00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:21,270
of move a little bit more to your

789
00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:24,030
thoughts on certain things change one of

790
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:26,670
the most recent YouTube videos that you

791
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:29,120
came out with covers the very

792
00:33:34,910 --> 00:33:32,010
controversial work being done by like

793
00:33:37,390 --> 00:33:34,920
182 front man turns UFO researcher Tom

794
00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:37,400
Dwan you found some very interesting

795
00:33:42,410 --> 00:33:39,630
connections between what he's bringing

796
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:42,420
forward and right now with his to the

797
00:33:46,790 --> 00:33:44,910
Stars and secret machines franchises

798
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:46,800
well you you were able to sort of

799
00:33:50,150 --> 00:33:48,690
connect this to the men in black I want

800
00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:50,160
to hear about this can you tell us a

801
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:52,260
little about your theories on too long

802
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:54,810
and his aim with the government as it

803
00:34:00,040 --> 00:33:58,080
were yes leave it to me to connect some

804
00:34:03,020 --> 00:34:00,050
pretty funky dots that really success

805
00:34:04,220 --> 00:34:03,030
for better for worse maybe too so I mean

806
00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:04,230
for those who don't know you know the

807
00:34:07,820 --> 00:34:06,360
men in black are those well wouldn't you

808
00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:07,830
picture your men in black suits

809
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:10,409
showing up after UFOs or paranormal

810
00:34:15,169 --> 00:34:13,050
weird encounters and really telling

811
00:34:17,210 --> 00:34:15,179
witnesses to be quiet about it or

812
00:34:19,460 --> 00:34:17,220
intimidating them sometimes they're

813
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:19,470
actually described as like weird shadowy

814
00:34:22,369 --> 00:34:21,839
figures to make batters all just the

815
00:34:24,349 --> 00:34:22,379
weirder

816
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:24,359
so you know how does this relate to Tom

817
00:34:28,579 --> 00:34:26,250
DeLonge well he claims to be a

818
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:28,589
government insider he will be coming out

819
00:34:33,230 --> 00:34:31,050
with some announcement soon and his

820
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,240
story lines so far and he has said this

821
00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:35,280
publicly on coast Coast AM and that it's

822
00:34:41,629 --> 00:34:37,250
based on his government insider sources

823
00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:41,639
that there are indeed negative iki on

824
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:43,950
our planet which will they're really

825
00:34:49,220 --> 00:34:46,530
called the others he really hesitated to

826
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:49,230
define them specifically where they're

827
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:52,800
really from and that our shadow secret

828
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:55,169
government has been investigating this

829
00:35:01,550 --> 00:34:58,560
and I guess combating that this covertly

830
00:35:03,260 --> 00:35:01,560
for our best interest so this sort of

831
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:03,270
leads us back to men in black and it

832
00:35:07,099 --> 00:35:04,890
gives allah and men in black are super

833
00:35:10,339 --> 00:35:07,109
well documented there were even a recent

834
00:35:12,290 --> 00:35:10,349
wave of sightings of them in 2016 in the

835
00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:12,300
united states so that's it leaves a

836
00:35:16,370 --> 00:35:14,460
little more credence to the whole men in

837
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:16,380
black theory if his storyline has any

838
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:19,200
truth to it right and so long like this

839
00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:21,089
old caught you know alongside this these

840
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:24,300
two points tom delonge also said that he

841
00:35:28,940 --> 00:35:26,609
was warned not to happen in a car with

842
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:28,950
any strangers so he's being warned by

843
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:31,380
his government insiders who would both

844
00:35:34,940 --> 00:35:33,330
no doubt in a wake maybe would be

845
00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:34,950
connected to the men in black you know

846
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:37,800
will smith says there there are the good

847
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:40,290
guys right so let's go along that line

848
00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:42,450
so here for you Tom DeLonge would

849
00:35:47,839 --> 00:35:44,940
essentially be working with them and to

850
00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:47,849
really wrap up this strange connection

851
00:35:54,410 --> 00:35:51,260
it's time I have another separate video

852
00:35:57,770 --> 00:35:54,420
interviewing Michael horn who's the

853
00:35:59,470 --> 00:35:57,780
representative of the billy meier UFO

854
00:36:03,980 --> 00:35:59,480
case that some people are aware of

855
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:03,990
because Tom DeLonge posted a photo but

856
00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:07,650
from that witness contact a billy meier

857
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:11,190
billy meier is largely been debunked in

858
00:36:16,430 --> 00:36:13,410
the UFO community people say that his

859
00:36:19,339 --> 00:36:16,440
photos are hoaxes so why is Tom DeLonge

860
00:36:21,150 --> 00:36:19,349
is this new Europe Authority posting

861
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:21,160
this hoax photograph

862
00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:23,530
make matters super weird the Billy Meyer

863
00:36:28,349 --> 00:36:26,260
camp says it's a reason that there's all

864
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:28,359
these accusations of hoaxes it's because

865
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:31,630
of the men in black all right there are

866
00:36:39,329 --> 00:36:35,200
no negative et and that this is all you

867
00:36:42,029 --> 00:36:39,339
know government disinfo so we have a

868
00:36:44,789 --> 00:36:42,039
very very weird spiderweb

869
00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:44,799
yeah being crafted by these two

870
00:36:50,430 --> 00:36:47,950
completely opposing voices in this field

871
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:50,440
and with announcements and disclosure

872
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:53,410
coming so it's a little confusing and I

873
00:36:57,059 --> 00:36:55,359
hope that you guys were able to stick

874
00:36:59,579 --> 00:36:57,069
with me through all that because I know

875
00:37:04,170 --> 00:36:59,589
it's not very it's very confusing even

876
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:04,180
for me but as Tom DeLonge comes out with

877
00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:05,890
more more announcements about this

878
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:08,680
really crazy kind of ancient aliens saga

879
00:37:14,849 --> 00:37:11,530
yep I think it's important that we keep

880
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:14,859
the men and black in mind and the

881
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:18,010
reality of disinformation and tuxes and

882
00:37:23,099 --> 00:37:21,250
all that in the picture that's a great

883
00:37:25,230 --> 00:37:23,109
way to look at it yeah we've been

884
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:25,240
promised something big within the next

885
00:37:31,260 --> 00:37:28,450
60 days or so from Tom DeLonge so I

886
00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:31,270
definitely suggest everyone interested

887
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:33,220
in this topic keep your eyes and ears

888
00:37:37,140 --> 00:37:34,210
open

889
00:37:38,789 --> 00:37:37,150
yes stay tuned stay tuned to james

890
00:37:42,990 --> 00:37:38,799
website because she's making a

891
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:43,000
connection oh yeah I'm always finding

892
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:45,520
out what he's up to and what he's saying

893
00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:48,400
and he did give us a hint I mean if you

894
00:37:52,799 --> 00:37:50,140
if anybody who's dug through the

895
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:52,809
WikiLeaks emails they're suppose stuff

896
00:37:57,450 --> 00:37:55,510
in there so it was definitely my duty to

897
00:38:00,299 --> 00:37:57,460
find out all that Tom DeLonge you know

898
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:00,309
goes is back in fourth you know with

899
00:38:05,069 --> 00:38:02,650
government officials about you know

900
00:38:07,170 --> 00:38:05,079
coming out about UFO disclosure you know

901
00:38:08,849 --> 00:38:07,180
officially so we can guess that you know

902
00:38:10,859 --> 00:38:08,859
he'll just be bringing these government

903
00:38:13,620 --> 00:38:10,869
insiders forward I think interviewing

904
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:13,630
them directly for us I think yes there's

905
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:15,609
a lot of exciting revelations to come

906
00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:17,200
but we just need to keep in mind you

907
00:38:21,210 --> 00:38:18,460
know who can we trust

908
00:38:23,069 --> 00:38:21,220
well I'm excited either way humor okay

909
00:38:25,890 --> 00:38:23,079
it's a I could tell just in this

910
00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:25,900
interview like your your passion and

911
00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:27,880
excitement for the topic it's palpable

912
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:30,670
and that comes with this younger

913
00:38:36,610 --> 00:38:33,530
generation I think of UFO researchers

914
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:36,620
there so why why do you think that the

915
00:38:44,020 --> 00:38:39,530
UFO field seems to usually consist of I

916
00:38:45,790 --> 00:38:44,030
hate this term older people oh god they

917
00:38:48,220 --> 00:38:45,800
probably hate us for saying that but you

918
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:48,230
know the mainstream perception is that

919
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:51,050
this field is wrought with old white

920
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:54,170
dudes with beards and trade suits but

921
00:38:58,270 --> 00:38:55,970
you are clearly not that what do you

922
00:39:00,520 --> 00:38:58,280
think we have to do to get younger

923
00:39:02,530 --> 00:39:00,530
people involved with this topic yeah

924
00:39:04,510 --> 00:39:02,540
really great question so I think you

925
00:39:06,580 --> 00:39:04,520
know how we were talking about people's

926
00:39:09,250 --> 00:39:06,590
memories and you know cases like the

927
00:39:11,650 --> 00:39:09,260
Roswell I think there was actually while

928
00:39:13,810 --> 00:39:11,660
maybe generation grew up thinking that

929
00:39:15,490 --> 00:39:13,820
this was only you know Hollywood movie

930
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:15,500
eye movies I think there was a

931
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:17,200
generation I grew up hearing stories

932
00:39:21,850 --> 00:39:19,730
about you know from their grandparents

933
00:39:24,610 --> 00:39:21,860
and from their parents you know even

934
00:39:27,250 --> 00:39:24,620
related to Roswell and events like that

935
00:39:29,260 --> 00:39:27,260
and grew up maybe a little more open to

936
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:29,270
this and then turned into those

937
00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:32,690
researchers and also I think we have to

938
00:39:36,910 --> 00:39:34,940
do really good investigation you need to

939
00:39:39,370 --> 00:39:36,920
be out in the field you need to collect

940
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:39,380
sources I mean this is one of the most

941
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:41,930
difficult topics to investigate and up

942
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:44,690
until you know really recently you

943
00:39:49,780 --> 00:39:46,910
couldn't adequately investigate online

944
00:39:52,020 --> 00:39:49,790
so I think it's just the nature of you

945
00:39:55,420 --> 00:39:52,030
know people have more established

946
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:55,430
contacts and in journalistic careers you

947
00:40:01,690 --> 00:39:58,850
know owning rightfully you know in some

948
00:40:05,110 --> 00:40:01,700
respects owning you know this story but

949
00:40:07,210 --> 00:40:05,120
now we have this new resurgence of young

950
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:07,220
UFO I mean there's so much true of

951
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:09,170
covert funds to Gators now it's just

952
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:12,890
amazing you know just just deciding to

953
00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:14,690
pick up the torch and start you know

954
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:16,430
filming and you know I'm all about it

955
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:18,410
because maybe you know we've had events

956
00:40:23,110 --> 00:40:20,690
like the Stephenville lights or you know

957
00:40:25,180 --> 00:40:23,120
maybe Phoenix lights and you had

958
00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:25,190
personal experiences we're seeing videos

959
00:40:29,830 --> 00:40:27,350
online like we never did before so

960
00:40:34,090 --> 00:40:29,840
there's this new I think wave just of

961
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:34,100
younger blood in this in this field so

962
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:36,110
it's interesting to watch but I think

963
00:40:40,570 --> 00:40:37,370
you know there's room for everybody

964
00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:40,580
though so all ages all hands on deck

965
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:43,790
absolutely I like you said like we take

966
00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:45,710
what we learned from that older

967
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:46,440
generation

968
00:40:51,380 --> 00:40:48,750
we build upon it that's like any any

969
00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:51,390
field of study in the same way yeah I

970
00:40:54,890 --> 00:40:53,220
couldn't agree more I'm not I'm excited

971
00:40:57,859 --> 00:40:54,900
to see younger people getting involved

972
00:40:59,900 --> 00:40:57,869
and where they may take ufology for sure

973
00:41:02,809 --> 00:40:59,910
I guess in that same vein

974
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:02,819
what are those around you think about

975
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:05,369
your work Jane do they support it do

976
00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:07,530
they laugh it off is it like a mixture

977
00:41:11,780 --> 00:41:10,020
of both how do people what is the

978
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:11,790
reaction when you tell them you're a UFO

979
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:14,640
researcher because I think we both know

980
00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:16,890
like this this is uh this is a messy

981
00:41:22,010 --> 00:41:19,230
topic and I'm sure the reactions

982
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:22,020
different mm-hmm so close friends and

983
00:41:25,069 --> 00:41:22,530
family

984
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:25,079
I've always been super transparent with

985
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:27,210
and have always been supportive you know

986
00:41:30,770 --> 00:41:29,130
to my face at least yeah I assume I

987
00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:30,780
always assume the conversations happen

988
00:41:35,089 --> 00:41:33,150
behind my back but it's harmless and

989
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:35,099
it's I wouldn't be into the subject

990
00:41:39,020 --> 00:41:37,050
matter I cared about that right like

991
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:39,030
there's just no way I cared about what

992
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:41,910
people thought but for the most part as

993
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:44,130
far as anybody outside that close circle

994
00:41:48,770 --> 00:41:47,250
that I feel completely supported by even

995
00:41:50,990 --> 00:41:48,780
if they're not believers or even if

996
00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:51,000
they're on the fence they they get what

997
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,980
I'm doing they know I'm seeking truce

998
00:41:57,140 --> 00:41:55,200
and so they're they encouraged me right

999
00:41:59,390 --> 00:41:57,150
and they will talk to me about it you

1000
00:42:01,550 --> 00:41:59,400
know so series around it it's fun it's a

1001
00:42:03,710 --> 00:42:01,560
nice unifying topic actually right now I

1002
00:42:05,780 --> 00:42:03,720
highly recommend if you get into

1003
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:05,790
arguments or whatever you bring up alien

1004
00:42:13,250 --> 00:42:10,560
like they're like sorry my England but

1005
00:42:16,099 --> 00:42:13,260
as far as outside that circle who knows

1006
00:42:16,670 --> 00:42:16,109
about it it's kind of on a I don't bring

1007
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:16,680
it up

1008
00:42:22,579 --> 00:42:19,200
just randomly I respect that not

1009
00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:22,589
everybody wants to talk about this or in

1010
00:42:25,849 --> 00:42:24,119
theory we all like to talk about aliens

1011
00:42:28,670 --> 00:42:25,859
maybe you don't want to know it's really

1012
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:28,680
real I'm not gonna let go and like shove

1013
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:30,720
that down anybody's throat or preach to

1014
00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:33,750
them but it just comes up if it comes up

1015
00:42:37,730 --> 00:42:35,640
and I you know find that that person's

1016
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:37,740
already interested in it you know share

1017
00:42:42,740 --> 00:42:41,010
the site with them but once people do

1018
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:42,750
find out about it they actually end up

1019
00:42:47,569 --> 00:42:44,910
coming to me telling me about UFOs they

1020
00:42:49,309 --> 00:42:47,579
see you're asking me about cases so

1021
00:42:52,220 --> 00:42:49,319
that's really what I get are questions

1022
00:42:54,620 --> 00:42:52,230
and increasingly so as time goes on and

1023
00:42:56,990 --> 00:42:54,630
I think disclosure approaches and people

1024
00:42:59,810 --> 00:42:57,000
are more open about it oh well you hit

1025
00:43:02,510 --> 00:42:59,820
on a very controversial word there

1026
00:43:04,010 --> 00:43:02,520
so I want I'm going to I've got some

1027
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:04,020
other questions but I want to skip to

1028
00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:07,530
that do you believe that we're ever

1029
00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:09,390
going to get some sort of official

1030
00:43:14,510 --> 00:43:12,150
disclosure on the UFO topic from any

1031
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:14,520
body of government or anything like that

1032
00:43:22,670 --> 00:43:18,770
yeah so I think to degree we have gotten

1033
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:22,680
disclosure so you can go on CIA gov

1034
00:43:27,170 --> 00:43:25,050
right now you can go in fbi.gov right

1035
00:43:31,250 --> 00:43:27,180
now and you can find all the documents

1036
00:43:34,370 --> 00:43:31,260
that confirm the UFO phenomenon as well

1037
00:43:37,060 --> 00:43:34,380
as other even paranormal and explained

1038
00:43:40,310 --> 00:43:37,070
phenomenons in our serious investigation

1039
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:40,320
of it so I think that's already happened

1040
00:43:46,850 --> 00:43:43,710
I think the next step now is okay

1041
00:43:48,350 --> 00:43:46,860
they're real we've classified them and I

1042
00:43:50,930 --> 00:43:48,360
don't mean drones and weather balloons

1043
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:50,940
and misidentifications yes that's always

1044
00:43:54,140 --> 00:43:52,650
going to end up in the mix anytime

1045
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:54,150
you're studying something unknown you're

1046
00:43:57,860 --> 00:43:55,680
going to have red herrings constantly

1047
00:44:00,410 --> 00:43:57,870
until you know it it's just part of it

1048
00:44:03,740 --> 00:44:00,420
so I think we know it's happening the

1049
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:03,750
next part of disclosure is what are they

1050
00:44:07,970 --> 00:44:06,480
where do they come from and yes those

1051
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:07,980
bigger question is there

1052
00:44:11,810 --> 00:44:09,510
extraterrestrial life are they

1053
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:11,820
responsible for some easier flows that

1054
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:14,250
that is a part of disclosure but

1055
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,330
disclosure means there are these real

1056
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:20,400
maybe the most important you know

1057
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:23,280
histories happening that are be that

1058
00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:25,530
we're investigated secretly and now no

1059
00:44:30,980 --> 00:44:27,780
longer are and it's you know what are we

1060
00:44:33,650 --> 00:44:30,990
the human you know American through

1061
00:44:36,170 --> 00:44:33,660
global population to do with this

1062
00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:36,180
information can we handle the truth or

1063
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:38,460
can't we that's that I think that's the

1064
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:40,530
more important question it really is and

1065
00:44:44,690 --> 00:44:42,480
like you said I think these small

1066
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:44,700
personal disclosures are what's

1067
00:44:49,850 --> 00:44:46,770
important the the witness who saw the

1068
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:49,860
Pentagon or the lights or the the ring

1069
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:51,450
of lights like that to their disclosure

1070
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:53,520
they saw something they couldn't explain

1071
00:44:57,410 --> 00:44:55,770
they're going to perceive that how they

1072
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:57,420
may whether they're religious it might

1073
00:45:02,420 --> 00:44:58,770
have been spiritual if they believe in

1074
00:45:04,670 --> 00:45:02,430
aliens and it's it's aliens oh yeah like

1075
00:45:06,380 --> 00:45:04,680
that's kind of their disclosure and the

1076
00:45:09,110 --> 00:45:06,390
more and more that happens too I think

1077
00:45:10,810 --> 00:45:09,120
the everyday people the more ready we're

1078
00:45:12,580 --> 00:45:10,820
going to be eventually if some

1079
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:12,590
and answer were to come from the

1080
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:14,960
phenomenon in my opinion absolutely I

1081
00:45:18,610 --> 00:45:17,210
agree completely I think it starts with

1082
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:18,620
just these conversations and the

1083
00:45:23,140 --> 00:45:20,960
acceptance of it it's like the stages of

1084
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:23,150
truth right yes I think we're past

1085
00:45:30,730 --> 00:45:26,930
denial and it will be on autism it'll be

1086
00:45:33,850 --> 00:45:30,740
a new world I think a lot of people they

1087
00:45:35,380 --> 00:45:33,860
do believe that UFOs are alien ghosts

1088
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:35,390
are supernatural Bigfoot is a

1089
00:45:40,810 --> 00:45:37,280
flesh-and-blood creature and that's that

1090
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:40,820
none of these topics they you know

1091
00:45:45,250 --> 00:45:43,130
become connected but do you believe that

1092
00:45:47,770 --> 00:45:45,260
this is the case or do you feel that

1093
00:45:49,810 --> 00:45:47,780
there are some similarities or

1094
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:49,820
connections to be made with all of these

1095
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:52,610
topics well you know back in the day and

1096
00:45:56,260 --> 00:45:55,040
this is I mean why it's fun to always

1097
00:45:58,090 --> 00:45:56,270
speak the truth because you're always

1098
00:46:01,000 --> 00:45:58,100
you're kind of always changing your mind

1099
00:46:02,350 --> 00:46:01,010
a little bit and it's exciting you just

1100
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:02,360
never know at least you're gonna turn

1101
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:05,810
over originally I really I would I like

1102
00:46:12,540 --> 00:46:08,450
all that stuff I like Loch Ness monster

1103
00:46:14,860 --> 00:46:12,550
as experi it's just fun yeah and go some

1104
00:46:17,850 --> 00:46:14,870
it's kind of I just thought about it

1105
00:46:20,980 --> 00:46:17,860
different and not this well-documented

1106
00:46:23,980 --> 00:46:20,990
scientific thing to study like UFOs but

1107
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:23,990
as time goes on yes indeed all these

1108
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:26,960
topics are coming together and Bigfoot

1109
00:46:31,810 --> 00:46:29,510
is especially a weird one the latest

1110
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:31,820
more popular theories from what I gather

1111
00:46:38,740 --> 00:46:34,880
that Bigfoot is some interdimensional

1112
00:46:41,530 --> 00:46:38,750
creature why are we never why there are

1113
00:46:45,130 --> 00:46:41,540
20 ways disappearin why can we never

1114
00:46:47,530 --> 00:46:45,140
find the body and if there's been too

1115
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:47,540
many I mean it's like UFOs there's been

1116
00:46:54,490 --> 00:46:51,290
so many reports of these creatures and

1117
00:46:55,810 --> 00:46:54,500
off sometimes around UFOs so that and

1118
00:46:57,220 --> 00:46:55,820
you have actually taken up and you know

1119
00:46:59,980 --> 00:46:57,230
what Bigfoot looks an awful lot like

1120
00:47:03,130 --> 00:46:59,990
Chewie because it's a great intelligent

1121
00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:03,140
space traveler and pilot love hours for

1122
00:47:08,350 --> 00:47:04,910
those of you who are you know don't know

1123
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:08,360
Star Wars yes he's a wonderful baritone

1124
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:11,690
singer I've heard as well yes and he's

1125
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:13,760
quite sophisticated you know but he's a

1126
00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:15,530
big hairy creature that kind of looks

1127
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:18,830
like a Yeti yeah so yeah I think it's I

1128
00:47:23,470 --> 00:47:21,290
think the more more that we uncover the

1129
00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:23,480
more we find these topics that are

1130
00:47:26,620 --> 00:47:24,230
similarly

1131
00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:26,630
covered up kind of and seem to be

1132
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:30,230
debunked there you're crazy you know if

1133
00:47:36,070 --> 00:47:32,450
you believe them yes or indeed connected

1134
00:47:38,170 --> 00:47:36,080
I think so and I mean I you know maybe

1135
00:47:39,970 --> 00:47:38,180
it starts as Bigfoot being a

1136
00:47:42,070 --> 00:47:39,980
flesh-and-blood creature as perceived by

1137
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:42,080
the witness but then like you said like

1138
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:43,520
there's this idea that it could be

1139
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:46,130
interdimensional or even I have friends

1140
00:47:51,220 --> 00:47:49,040
who think that he is a ghost that he is

1141
00:47:53,070 --> 00:47:51,230
an apparition but then some people

1142
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:53,080
believe that an apparition is

1143
00:47:58,690 --> 00:47:55,490
interdimensional so right here

1144
00:48:02,349 --> 00:47:58,700
like they're all connecting and it could

1145
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:02,359
be like let's start with avian let's

1146
00:48:06,340 --> 00:48:05,119
move to ghost and then interdimensional

1147
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:06,350
it's fascinating

1148
00:48:11,530 --> 00:48:08,810
okay and you know what we're all right

1149
00:48:13,660 --> 00:48:11,540
and we're probably all wrong - yes

1150
00:48:16,270 --> 00:48:13,670
that's exactly we're all right and we're

1151
00:48:17,980 --> 00:48:16,280
all wrong yeah but we're in a desert in

1152
00:48:20,740 --> 00:48:17,990
a more true statement

1153
00:48:22,690 --> 00:48:20,750
Jane whoa it serves about right and

1154
00:48:24,190 --> 00:48:22,700
wrong what's next for you as a UFO

1155
00:48:26,770 --> 00:48:24,200
researcher what are you working on now

1156
00:48:28,180 --> 00:48:26,780
yeah so all I mean always those

1157
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:28,190
sightings happening so I'm always

1158
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:31,130
updating the site and researching I had

1159
00:48:36,130 --> 00:48:33,200
mentioned Michael horn earlier he's a

1160
00:48:38,020 --> 00:48:36,140
representative of that billy meier UFO

1161
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,030
contactee i'll be doing an interview

1162
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:40,480
with him soon so that should be exciting

1163
00:48:44,530 --> 00:48:42,890
talking about maybe some more Tom

1164
00:48:47,830 --> 00:48:44,540
DeLonge latest and get his perspective

1165
00:48:50,859 --> 00:48:47,840
if he disagrees completely so yeah I'm

1166
00:48:53,380 --> 00:48:50,869
excited for that just you know hoping to

1167
00:48:56,109 --> 00:48:53,390
get the content just pick it up to the

1168
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:56,119
next notch you know on YouTube on the

1169
00:49:01,660 --> 00:48:58,240
site you know over this coming year and

1170
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:01,670
I'm dedicated so oh yeah that's that

1171
00:49:06,609 --> 00:49:04,010
yeah definitely for certain know in any

1172
00:49:07,870 --> 00:49:06,619
where your material comes out of the day

1173
00:49:09,370 --> 00:49:07,880
it's very exciting

1174
00:49:11,770 --> 00:49:09,380
well let's tell people where can we find

1175
00:49:14,890 --> 00:49:11,780
all of your work where's the best places

1176
00:49:17,770 --> 00:49:14,900
to go for that Texas UFOs calm is where

1177
00:49:20,530 --> 00:49:17,780
pretty much everything ends up you know

1178
00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:20,540
if I do youtube video all you know put

1179
00:49:24,970 --> 00:49:22,310
it there so that's a great starting

1180
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:24,980
point from there you know you can find

1181
00:49:29,470 --> 00:49:27,710
my youtube where I've got videos up and

1182
00:49:31,660 --> 00:49:29,480
you know you can connect on Facebook and

1183
00:49:33,340 --> 00:49:31,670
Twitter and all that - well it's it's

1184
00:49:35,859 --> 00:49:33,350
been such a pleasure dream like it's so

1185
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:35,869
good to see a journalists being involved

1186
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:36,610
in the south

1187
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:39,010
be people as passionate as you are so

1188
00:49:43,230 --> 00:49:41,290
from one researcher to another thank you

1189
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:43,240
I look forward to hopefully our work

1190
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:45,730
together someday and let's just keep

1191
00:49:50,610 --> 00:49:48,010
looking up yes keep your eyes to the sky

1192
00:49:54,330 --> 00:49:50,620
yeah thanks again Jane for joining us

1193
00:49:56,430 --> 00:49:54,340
thank you this is a blast that's it for

1194
00:49:59,070 --> 00:49:56,440
this week's episode once again you can

1195
00:50:01,950 --> 00:49:59,080
find all of Jane Kyle's work at Texas

1196
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UFOs comm I wanted to take a moment to

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announce that the new book UFOs

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reframing the debate is now available on

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Amazon this is a collection of essays by

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researchers from around the world

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shaking things up on the entire UFO

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Books calm if you haven't already please

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somewhere in the skies calm next week is

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going to be our first in-studio

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interview and trust me it was a fun one

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we'll be talking to the half white Sun

1219
00:51:01,470 --> 00:50:58,690
of a black man it'll all make sense next

1220
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:01,480
week so see you on Monday remember keep

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your feet on the ground but never stop

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